[Editor’s Note: This LY2 engine upgrade guide is part of a series of LS engine upgrade guides assembled by a team of LS experts at Summit Racing that we are sharing at OnAllCylinders. For a primer on the entire LS engine universe, read LS Engines 101: An Introductory Overview of the Gen III/IV LS Engine Family.]
Intro to the 4.8L LY2 Engines
The LY2 appeared in model year 2007-09 GM 1500 series trucks and vans that offered between 260-295 horsepower and 295-305 ft.-lbs. of torque. It’s a Gen IV 4.8L iron-block engine, so you’re getting the better intake manifold, connecting rods, and ECM.
The engine was as basic as it gets for a Gen. 4, so no AFM or VVT to contend with. Being a 9.1:1 compression Iron block variant, it’s become a cheap and easy motor to hit with boost. It’s 799 casting heads are very similar to the LS6’s 243’s so there isn’t anything hold this little engine back from greatness.
For LY2 engine specs, read this:
How to Get More Power From Your 4.8L LY2 Engine
The LY2, which began its life in trucks and SUVs, is gaining popularity for several reasons:
- It’s an iron-block alternative to older Gen III 4.8L, 5.3L, and 5.7L engines that are becoming more difficult to find. The intake and accessory drive swap over, but a Lingenfelter crank sensor trigger conversion is required.
- General Motors made about a bazillion of them, which has helped keep prices down.
Basic Bolt-On Upgrades for LY2
There isn’t exactly a surplus of folks hot-rodding commercial vans, but the engine is used often in engine swaps due to the low price in wrecking yards. If you do want to modify the engine, you can take comfort in knowing it responds the same to mods as the others.
If you own a van, you’re not going to find much in the way of bolt-ons. If you have a truck, you’re in good shape. There are quite a few parts available that also bolt onto the 5.3L variant.
For many people, it starts off with a cold air intake and aftermarket exhaust. The problem—if you can call it one—is that the engine starts to sound REALLY good, and owners often find themselves wanting to go faster. All these modifications can be completed in the garage, but the tune won’t be optimized.
At this point, we recommend talking to your chassis dyno tuner and deciding on a computer programmer. Whether you’re towing on low-octane or springing for good fuel, a tuner can dial in the ECM and take it to the next level.
The 4.8L loves to rev, so raising the rev limit and shift points is common. It also makes it easier to tune with a bigger cam and injectors later on. Before you go, make sure to install a colder thermostat to open up the tuning window.
Below are some additional upgrades that will improve the performance of your LY2 engine.
Upgrading the LY2 Camshaft and Valvetrain
When it comes to bang for your buck, cams are at the very top!
Generally, 3-bolt cams are more common and just requires the addition of a 3-bolt 4-pole upper gear to convert it over.
So how do you choose a cam?
The price point of a LS3 or LS9 cam is good, but they make the engines pretty soggy up to 5,000 rpm. This is due to the intake valve closing (IVC) point being late and bleeding off a lot of compression down low.
What you want is a dedicated truck cam.
What’s the difference?
To maximize torque in the mid-range, manufactures close the intake valve at about 40 degrees (at .050 inch) after bottom dead center and alter the intake valve opening to set the idle quality. For a good idle and low end, you’ll often see the 4.8L truck cams in the 210-215 at .050 inch range if it’s still a daily driver.
If the engine is being swapped into a lightweight car with deep gears, converter, etc., the LY2 responds well to bigger cams.
|Intake Duration (@ 0.050 in.)||Horsepower at the wheels after bolt-ons||Idle Quality||Notes|
|191° (Stock)||230 whp||Smooth||Heavy drivetrain.|
|215°||+40 hp||Slightly noticeable||Good with auto and stock converter.|
|220° - 230°||+65 hp||Steady lope||Converter recommended. Still can drive daily.|
|230° - 240°||+90 hp||Lopey||Fly-cutting the pistons may be required. Heads and intake good for another 40+ hp.|
These cams reduce overlap to keep high turbine inlet (backpressure) from flowing back into the cylinder. Generally, supercharger cams and nitrous cams will have slightly more lobe separation and longer exhaust duration. If you’re planning to turbocharge your 4.8L, you’ll want a dedicated turbo cam.
Drop-in .500-inch lift cams are popular, but LS6 springs allow you to run .550-inch lift cams and extend the rpm range. Spring life isn’t a problem because trucks generally don’t spend a lot of time at high rpm. Beyond that, .575 to .600 inch options aren’t a problem with dual valve springs.
The stock rockers are good to 175 lbs. of seat pressure and 450 lbs. open. You will want to install a trunnion kit for added reliability.
There are a few other parts needed for a LY2 cam swap, including an LS2 timing chain, LS7 spec lifters, LS2 timing chain damper. These little engines love rpm, so you’ll want to upgrade from the thin 5/16 factory pushrods to thick-wall 11/32 pushrods to increase valvetrain stability.
LY2 Power Adders
In general, the LY2 will see boost or nitrous before any serious head work. Before we get into the power adders, there are a couple things to address:
- A four-corner steam kit reduces hot spots that cause the rings to butt and snap the piston’s ring lands.
- Any power-adder will put you well past the limitations of the stock injectors and pump. We’ll address those in the next section.
With that out of the way, let’s get to the fun stuff.
- A roots-style supercharger is dependable and makes great torque in the low- and mid-rpm range. It’s perfect for melting tires.
- A centrifugal-style supercharger is lightweight and makes more power at high rpm. This is partially due to a larger intercooler mounted in front of the radiator.
- A nitrous oxide kit (at low settings) is great for street driving with stock internals. Up to a 200 shot is common. Keep in mind that the tight piston ring-gap is the limiting factor beyond that. If you want to get serious, a single-plane intake is less prone to breakage as a result of a nitrous backfire. A plate system has better distribution than the original intake, but an eight-nozzle fogger system is even better. Running higher octane fuel is advised.
- Truck engine bays make fitting turbos easy. Single turbo systems using turbo exhaust manifolds are an inexpensive way to make big power. If you’re running a single turbo, the T4 hot-side fits well, but the small turbine diameters limit exhaust flow. The 650 whp begins to feel like 400 did in a hurry, so take this into consideration: V-band style exhaust housings open up the turbine options and make plumbing easier. While twins are a little more expensive out of the box, you’ll have more room to grow.
Upgrading the LY2 Fuel System and Tuning
We recommend looking at the injector’s part number before taking it to the tuner. The LY2 injectors were rated at 29 lbs. and won’t support much more than 450 whp. Luckily, you have many options.
As for upgrades, the 1.730-inch O-ring centers L96 injector bolts in and bumps capacity to 49 lbs. The shorter 59 lb. LSA/LS9 injector also works, but a spacer will be required to fit the fuel rail.
Keep in mind, the best injectors are fully characterized, which helps your tuner maximize idle quality, etc.
When running boost, you can use a water-methanol system to supply extra fuel and lower charge air temps.
The factory pump is good to about 430 whp, but many fuel system upgrade options are available. Drop-in fuel pump modules and external pumps are popular. Other options to maintain or increase pump pressure includes electronic voltage controllers and hotwire kits.
Upgrading the LY2 Intake Manifold and Throttle Body
If you have a power adder, the intake and throttle body can take a backseat for a while longer. If you are naturally aspirated, it’s commonly done before the heads.
The factory truck-style manifold has long runners for better low-end torque. Porting the intake is one option that’s also a good value.
In most cases, a single plane is the wrong way to go; however, it might make sense if you’re running a lot of nitrous since it’s stronger and the cylinder-to-cylinder mixture distribution can be better. It’s a good choice when swapping it into an old car or if you’re not familiar with injection. You can slap your trusty carb on it and run a programmable ignition box that plugs right into the factory coil harness and cam sensor.
If you’re craving a bit more power and torque, the F.A.S.T. LSXRT intake allows for throttle bodies of 102mm and larger. Truck engine bays also accommodate tunnel rams. These trade a little bit of torque down low for more torque up high—and nothing looks cooler.
|Manifold Style||Peak Horsepower||Torque|
|Single Plane||+10 hp||Losses everywhere below 6000 rpm. *Only recommended for nitrous or boost, or when performing a carb swap.|
|F.A.S.T. LSXRT||+15 hp||More low-end and top-end.|
|Tunnel Ram||+30 hp||Slightly lower below 3000, equal at 4500, and big gains beyond 5500.|
Ask your tuner about going with a Speed Density tune. Doing so removes the MAF restriction and gives you a bit more power.
[Trying to find an LS engine for a swap or build? Check out Part 1 and Part 2 of our LS Spotter’s Guide.]
Upgrading LY2 Cylinder Heads
The stock heads can be CNC-ported for more airflow and milled up to .030 inch for more compression. Flow numbers can be as high as 325 cfm at .600-inch lift. Lightweight, hollow-stem LS3 valves can be cut to 2.040 inches to fit the seats. Between the light valves and better springs, the engines will pull cleanly to 7,000 rpm.
A better option is aftermarket cathedral port heads. They reduce down time, they’re all new, and you can usually offset the added cost by selling your original heads. Valve angles are typically laid over to 13.5 degrees, and 2.100-inch intake valves are common. They flow great, and the cross-sections are great for boost.
When comparing heads, look at .400-inch lift numbers as a general indicator of how the heads will perform. With a medium-sized cam, 400+ whp naturally aspirated is common, even with the heavier truck drivetrain.
Upgrading the LY2 Rotating Assembly
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The LY2 has about the lowest compression ratio of any LS/Vortec engine at 9.1:1. This is due to having the larger 65cc chambered heads and short 3.267 stroke. The heads can be milled to 60cc to bump compression to 9.8:1, as long as you don’t use a cam that’s too big.
Again, the pistons are a weak point—in fact, you probably know someone who has popped one. A set of forged pistons should be high on your priority list. They have stronger wrist pins, thicker ring lands, and added valve reliefs that allow you to run big cams.
There are exceptions, but Gen IV rods start getting dicey around 800 whp, and the bolts don’t like much more than 7,000 rpm. They are likely to bend before they break when subjected to real track conditions. If you’re getting forged pistons, it’s best to also get forged connecting rods with 7/16-inch rod bolts.
The LY2 cranks were cast but strong—they’ve been known to handle over 1,000 whp. The main reason for going with a stroker forged crank is for the added cubic inches. The extra cubes bring quicker boost, meaning you can use bigger turbos.
Performance rotating assemblies are available in many combinations.
|Engine Size||Bore Dia.||Piston Comp. Height||Stroke||Rod Length||Wristpin Dia.|
|LY2 4.8L (Stock)||3.780 in.||1.338 in.||3.267 in.||6.275 in.||0.9431 in.|
|4.8L to 5.3L||3.780 in.||1.338 in.||3.622 in.||6.098 in.||0.943 in.|
|4.8L to 5.7L||3.903 in.||1.304 in.||3.622 in.||6.125 in.||0.927 in.|
|4.8L to 6.3L||3.903 in.||1.110 in.||4.000 in.||6.125 in.||0.927 in.|
Upgrading the LY2 Engine Block
There is no replacement for displacement.
If you’re running boost, it’s common to overbore by .020 to 3.800 inches. The blocks can be taken to 3.905 (.007 oversize LS1) if it’s not going to see a lot of power.
When combined with a 4.000-inch stroke, this will increase displacement to 383 cubic inches.
The blocks have been known to withstand 850+ hp at the wheels with proper machining, racing fuel, and an excellent tune.
Head and main studs are advised if you’re making more than 850 whp. At that point, a set of head studs are a good idea. Though LS9 gaskets don’t benefit from the optimal bore size, many people have used them with success.
The factory main caps aren’t doweled. It’s better to reduce ignition timing and compensate with added boost to reduce the cylinder pressure spikes that lift heads and cause the main caps to dance.
(Information for this article originally appeared in this Upgrading the LY2, L20, LY5, LMG and LMF Engines article at Summit Racing’s searchable database of FAQ tech info. Go there and search “LS engines” for a comprehensive collection of LS engine tech information.)
NOTE: You can find engine specs and detailed engine upgrade advice for every LS and LS-based Vortec truck engine in one place: The Definitive Guide to LS Engine Specs and LS Engine Upgrades.
Hi there I own a a 2007.5 Silverado crew cab 4×4 that I tow a 22′ Searay and as you know The LY2 just doesn’t have the low end torque or HP needed to do the hills in southern Ohio. My wife has stated that I can’t buy a new truck but can build the engine as needed. All I want is about 400 hp and about the same in torque. I am handy with wrench but what I don’t know is what parts to replace to achieve my goal. I know I will spend $ to have it tuned but for now just looking for a parts list to start with
I’m in a similar situation. Did you ever find a solution?
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